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Water Pump Grease – Dave’s Garage

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Dave Stone
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A lot of our antique cars have, or had a grease fitting or a grease cup on the water pump. Without the proper grease, the water pump bearings will quickly fail. In some cars, particularly Model A Fords, the grease may pass through the water pump in to the cooling system. Ford specified a special water soluble grease. Using a conventional grease can cause a blockage in the radiator. Chrysler specified a special grease for use on their water pumps too.

water pumpSo, what makes water pump grease different than conventional chassis grease? Depending on the grease, it is either a grease that won’t be washed away by water, or a water soluble grease that will wash away and dissolve in water preventing a blockage in the cooling system.

Many replacement or rebuilt water pumps have modern, sealed bearings. Most of these pumps use the original casting and either have a grease fitting, or grease cup, or a spot for the grease fitting to be fitted. Many concourse restoration pumps actually have dummy grease fittings or grease cups to “look the part” of the factory pump.

The question is, what grease to use? If you need a water soluble grease, such as for a Model A, most Model A parts- houses stock the water soluble water pump grease.

There are several options for non water soluble grease. Most auto parts stores stopped stocking water pump grease decades ago. The most popular modern replacement is marine grease, or the wheel bearing grease for boat trailers. Many people use Lubriplate 115 for water pump grease. Marine shops carry outboard motor grease. Another option is your local fire department. The pumps in fire trucks requires a special, water pump grease. This grease is sitting right on the shelf at the fire house. If you are lucky, they may give you a few pumps from their grease gun, or several ounces from the tub they are using.

Please email all inquiries to: Dave
or snail mail
32 Turkey Hill Road
Richmond VT 05477

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5 responses to “Water Pump Grease – Dave’s Garage”

  1. WILLIAM MOSURE

    Good afternoon, I have a 1927 Chev. coupe.. Can you help me find a nowday replacement grease that would work for the water pump…I’m not sure if the car requires a water proof or water soluble grease…. Thanks any help will be appreciated…. Bill

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  2. David

    Good morning,
    I believe the proper grease for your water pump is water soluble grease. I did some digging on your specific pump, and found this article from “The Filling Station”. There is a lot of helpful information here. Also, if you ever have your pump apart, there is a baffle behind the pump. Early ones were steel, which rusted and caused overheating issues. These were replaced with a brass baffle.
    “ Early Chevrolet water pumps from 1916 thru 1937 have bushings that require constant maintenance. This style of water pump needs lubrication: oil on the pulley bushing every 50-100 miles & water pump grease from the grease cup around every 100 miles. In addition, whenever leaking is noticed, the packing nut should be checked and tightened. If the packing nut is turned all the way in, it will be necessary to add a ring of packing and readjust the nut. Failure to properly maintain this style of water pump can cause failure of the bushings, and leaking that cannot be stopped. At that point the only option is to rebuild or replace the water pump.

    Each time these early cars & trucks are driven, it is vital that the water pump is lubricated. In the front of the water pump snout, there is an oil galley. Sometimes this has a metal, spring-loaded cap on it and sometimes it is just an open valley. Put a few drops of oil on this bushing each time the vehicle is run. A fan belt that is too tight can damage the front bushing and cause it to fail. It is important that the fan belt is left as loose as possible while still making the fan move. Over-tightening of the fan belt can cause premature failure of the front bushing. KEEP THE BELT LOOSE and the water pump will last longer.

    The water pump packing nut squeezes water pump packing around the shaft to prevent leakage. It will also prevent air being sucked into the impeller of the water pump. Air around the water pump impeller will cause cavitation and prevent circulation of water causing overheating.

    If leaking is noted, turn in the brass packing nut with a 1″ open end wrench until the leaking stops. Caution: over-tightening this nut can cause the shaft to seize. If the packing nut is turned in all the way, back out the nut completely and add a single split ring water pump packing into the cavity. Start the packing nut back into the housing being cautious that it is not cross threaded. Tighten the nut until the leaking stops.

    Finally, the grease cup should be turned in around every 100 miles. A proper water pump lube should be used in the grease cup.

    Let me know if you need more info,
    Be well, David.

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  3. Kingsley Harvest

    People, the time has come for a definitive answer to the question as what is the very best modern lubricant for the water pumps found of vintage automobiles. That answer is not:

    1. DO NOT use any lithium based grease (never was and still isn’t the right grease because of a whole host of issues)
    2. DO NOT use DELO HEAVY DUTY 3% 2 (this is sold by a number of modern vintage car people as the right grease, it is the wrong grease)
    3. DO NOT…..REPEAT…DO NOT USE any fire department water pump greases.

    The trick to knowing what modern lubricant to use in a vintage car’s water pump is KNOWING modern lubrication. There are very few people around who do and fewer still who understand the issues surrounding the nature of lubrication in vintage water pumps. THE ANSWER IS – “CHEVRON SRI 2” and that answer comes from the profoundly deep knowledge and experience of the head of CHEVRONs technical team. Chevron makes the DELO and the SRI products, so there is no more guessing.

    CHEVRON SRI 2 is the exact grease that would be selected today if the same water pump was being used on new cars. Why? Because is does not have within its lubrication “carrier” complex the very ingredients that will attack yellow metals. In fact if CHEVRON SRI 2 mingles with the coolant and is distributed throughout the engine, it is by its very nature a lubricant for soft babbetts and bushings, etc and is not corrosive. It does not seek out and coat metals like DELO HD with their thicker heavier carriers will, nor will it become a long term problem in the radiator. The reason is the Polyurea nature of SRI. As to fire truck water pump grease…..yikes! First off, modern displacement pumps separate ANY chance of the lubrication being ANYWHERE near the pumps to begin with. Those pumps have exactly ZERO similarity and ANYTHING that you would need in these old water pumps. Besides almost ALL fire houses send the trucks out to be serviced because they are not certified to touch the pumps.

    P.S. The original wax carrier greases were never correct because of their relatively low service temps….but….that is all they had.

    Know…..finally….you know. CHEVRON SRI 2

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    1. John R. Klingensmith

      I cannot find a source for purchase of Chevron SRI2. Help!

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  4. JD Russell

    I have a 3540 ag king tractor that has a grease fitting that has started leaking out the hole will putting the right kind of grease in it stop the leaking

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